I was on Ubuntu's first design team in 2009 London

Weirdly, there was already a good GNOME photo app written in Mono since the mid 2000s (F-Spot, originally by Ximian), though I believe gThumb remained the default in most distros until it began to be replaced by Shotwell at some point in the 2010s.

I don't agree with everything Ubuntu did in that time period but shooting down the idea of creating yet another competing app, rather than improving one of the existing options, sounds fairly reasonable to me.

> A memorable example: we proposed a beautiful new default photo app and it got triumphantly shot down because it was written in C#, and Mono was obviously a Trojan horse from Microsoft.

I would've shot it down too. Not because of some "Trojan Horse" bs, but because Mono is a huge dependency which doesn't vibe with the rest of the environment. It's not appropriate for a default app in a standard Linux distro. You could just as easily replace "Mono" with something like "Java", and it would've been shot down equally triumphantly. The fact that they didn't understand this when they proposed the idea shows you how little they knew of the Linux ecosystem, and the fact that they're still bringing up so many years later shows that they haven't learnt anything even after all this time.

And given their enthusiasm for DHH and that overrated "distro" of his, I'm inclined to believe @dvdsgl is one of those people... sigh.