Steam Machine

> Why a randomized reservation order? [...] we wanted to create a system that would be less frustrating and more fair for everyone. A launch that starts at a specific day and time tends to reward bots, people with fast internet connections, talented gaming fingers for quick F5/refresh reactions, and those who can schedule their life around that moment. By accepting reservation signups over the course of a few days, without any incentive to be first, we're hoping to take away some of that friction.

This is nice.

I am pleased to see hardware not being locked down as a selling point:

> Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?

It feels very commonsense that you should be able to run whatever you want on the computer that you have purchased, but it is surprisingly uncommon.

This is a weird thing to call out, when there's so much else to talk about (price, specs, etc) buuuuuut-

Check out the gameplay video partway down the page, where the two people are on the couch playing Cuphead. Right under "Your Steam library in more places."

It's just... a real clip of real people playing a real game and reacting in a real way. It's funny. I know it's stupid to call out, but how many exaggerated versions of this scene have you seen before? And Valve is smart enough to say "Let's just film two people playing a real game and snip a nice, realistic reaction shot from it."

It's just dead-on-arrival.

I'm not convinced this hardware is "an extension of PC gaming, not a console" when the hardware is generations out of date. To credit Microsoft, Sony, and other players, the reality is that unless you are "in the game" for decades, you HAVE to provide a convincing differentiator from the other console markets.

Steam had this with the Steam Deck and personally, I see the world moving to thin clients that play games via some remote desktop infrastructure. It makes no sense to buy this hardware even if it was 500-700 dollars.

In my opinion, it would've been worth the money to just buy a gaming PC, put it in a garage, hidden room, etc with the networking gear, then stream it over the network to a Steam Link or using Apollo/Artemis/Moonlight/Parsec; anything.

Tangential to this discussion: Steam is in the unique position to create a kernel anti-cheat. I know that's not popular. But they are the only ones with the install base AND ability to pull it off in a such a fashion that wouldn't be so god-awful. It's clear that multiplayer gaming isn't going to go away from kernel anti-cheat. It's also clear that developers are still going to target Windows-only with Steam Deck support as a best-kept basis.

I don't see the Steam Machine/Deck as a competitor until they solve the kernel anti-cheat portion. Until then, it can play games that are older, not popular, or single-player which is a valid market but not one that I am a part of, anyway.

I imagine Valve Software wanted to release the Steam Machine for $549-$699. The great RAM hoarding of 2025-2026 killed this product on arrival sadly.

I want to buy one just to raise the signal that Linux support is important.

When these machines were announced I switched to Fedora as a daily driver on my high end gaming rig.

It’s been awesome. I still have to go back to Windows for music production unfortunately. I may switch to Mac for that so I can completely abandon Windows.

I run an optical HDMI cable from my office to my TV and get to play games and use Linux in 77”.

Something feels awesome about that.

“starting with the SteamOS 3.8 release, you can put together your own Steam Machine using whatever PC parts you want”

That’s great.

I know the price for PC parts is terrible these days, but $1049 for a 6-core 16GB RAM, with a 512GB SSD, and no controller, is a terrible value.

For reference, the PS5 Pro has more than twice the number GPU CUs, an 8-core CPU, a 2TB SSD, a controller, and costs $899.

I'm tempted even at this price.

I've tried various iterations of a gaming HTPC over the years, and they've all been pretty miserable. That lack of any reasonable or stable CEC solution this whole time so far has honestly been an oversized anchor this whole time. And I think Valve is doing a bit of a disservice not advertising it more.

For reference, a PlayStation 5 is $600-650 for the base models (lower performance than Steam Machine) and $900 for the Pro model (likely higher performance). I know this is a PC and thus an open platform, but for most buyers in living room gaming, that's the competition. I don't think this will reach mass market success, but I'm not sure that was the goal. Who are they selling to?

Note: I ask as someone with a Steamdeck sitting on the desk in front of me and a custom-built computer under my TV running Linux.

Hope the Frame is available for pre-order soon as well! I know I’m going to pay more than the HW was worth a year ago because of “AI”, but I’m really looking forward to that one.

No need to rush:

> In an effort to improve the purchase experience and limit resellers, we're implementing a reservation system.

> Starting right now, you can sign up for the Steam Machine model/bundle you're interested in.

> If you're busy now, no problem: You can sign up anytime before Thursday June 25th at 10 a.m. Pacific.

> At that time, we will close signups and do a one-time randomization to determine the reservation and waitlist order.

I understand why it costs that much, but it's too much.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not commenting on the value, but rather the markets ability to handle it.

> who are we trying to tell you how to use your computer?

Valve is still great.

My steam deck is underpowered as a living room gaming PC.

Wish it was cheaper but would look forward to a “just works” experience including sleep/instant game resume.

Add my thousands of already owned Steam games and it makes me excited for a great couch gaming experience. It’s the reason I don’t get a PS5/Switch cause I don’t wanna rebuy all the games and they are not on sale as much.

The prices I think a lot of us expected. I know Valve is being pressured by the market, but I can't imagine buying one for this price, even if I'm really excited for the Steam Machine. That said, the Steam Deck is now so expensive I don't think I can justify replacing mine when it breaks.

I think a lot of people expected it to be in the ~$600 price range, maybe ~$800 at worst. RAM prices made it quite expensive...

Surprised that they have 4 USB-A and only 1 USB-C. With their power profile, Steam Machine should be powerable by a single USB-C cable on extended power range which should reduce the need for the power supply altogether and greatly simplify mechanical as well as thermal design, although the power electronic design would be more complex as a result.

I would also be expecting Wifi 7 support as well as unified memory considering they ordered custom AMD silicon. Understandable that it is a rather conservative design for their first generation though.

What is the appeal of Steam Machine as a dedicated gaming device? Isn't it going to be old in a few years and then you have to get rid of it because upgrading components isn't a viable option? Isn't that quite the opposite of anything that deserves to be associated with them term "hacker"?

What's the competition in the gaming capable pre-build mini PC category? How does it compare to these on price/performance?

The only thing that I get with consoles that I don't get with the Steam Machine is a guarantee; a GUARANTEE that the games I buy will play on the system. If I but a game and it says PS5, I know it will play. A list of specs on the Steam Machine landing page does not absolve this for Valve.

What a great machine it would've been without these stupid prices we have now...

The Verge: Nearly twice the price of PS5 for PS5 performance.

That’s rough.

Related ongoing thread:

Steam Machine game testing - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48632989 - June 2026 (19 comments)

back in 2019, I was thinking of getting an MBA and as part of the exploration, shadowed an MBA class at University of Washington for a day. It was so fun. One of the things they were discussing in the class that day was a case study of Valve, specifically around the Steam Machine. The team's consensus was that Valve was carefully arranging money in a barrel, lovingly soaking it in high octane gasoline, and was about to light a match.

Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?

This is glorious

What a sad time to be buying a gaming PC, it seems that my 7yo rig bought for the same price is just as powerful.

I was expecting $1200 for the base model, so $1,049 without a controller is nice to see.

Having to enter a lottery to buy one makes it feel like Valve doesn’t have new stock in the pipeline for the foreseeable future.

16 Gb system ram... i'd bet that they originally planned it with 32.

Note that you can order more storage but not more RAM. Although that may also be to force vendors to target this exact architecture.

Also: oooh internal power supply! Someone thought about elegance too.

I lost access to my 10y old steam account due to their 2fa app getting auto-removed from my iPhone.

I couldnt produce 10y visa statements from another country i lived in.

Since then I just dont use steam, shame cause i like the hw

Sad about the price. Maybe it comes down some day.

$1049 for the base package? Much better than I thought it was going to be. I figured minimum $1200.

Can't you build or buy an equivalent (in performance) PC for cheaper? All with upgradable standard parts? I get the appeal of a small form factor, but I am afraid it may not sell well at this price.

Interesting with the memory. It is 16GB plus an additional 8GB for graphics, or is it just 16GB with 8GB reserved for graphics?

The biggest win for me from this product is pushing developers to release on Linux.

Are they crazy to ask for this price? Few months ago I have bought a minipc with amd 8845hs 8/16c, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVME for €519

Component pricing is bad. As even Valve can't get half of the hardware while other half is semi-custom...

And this likely goes on until AI really dies or stabilises...

They should include the (entire) Valve game library for free with purchase for the first 6 months to drive adoption.

Eagerly awaiting the steam engine release.

From last year:

Steam Machine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45903404 - Nov 2025 (1514 comments)

For balance:

I don’t need a Steam Machine - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45943992 - Nov 2025 (272 comments)

I think Apple Mac Mini's prices make since now, only if you can install Linux on them

Interesting that its HDMI is 2.0 and not 2.1. Hopefully it's still possible (for those that really want) to connect modern 4K TVs at 120 hz via the DisplayPort 1.4 output.

I'm not familiar with SteamOS and Valve hardware in general. Could I play something like Overwatch on this, and connect keyboard and mouse? Could I play other PC games like World of Warcraft?

Unfortunate for them on the pricing of components. This won't do so well (right now), but I think the Frame will exceed expectations.

Interesting that they went with AMD for GPU, but not too surprising. My experience with a nvidia 5060 on my laptop is that nvidia's drivers on linux still have no idea how to reliably wake from sleep. Fixing that just not the priority for them I guess - datacenter GPUs doing AI probably never sleep and just idle at 50 watts or whatever.

I like the idea, but I am worried that it's yet another step on the road towards personal multi-purpose tower PCs built part by part no longer being a thing.

They released it. Companion cube.

So unfortunate with the timing, I wish they shelved it for a few years instead. At any other time this could've been the thing to entrench Steam, PC and Linux as finally THE gaming platform.

At this price and features it'll probably just be a footnote.

This seems very expensive for what a PC can do :(. A PC can be fully customizable with price ranges that are lower than the steam machine. The "hardcore console gamers" live on PS, and Xbox, and for "casual gamers", a Nintendo Switch would provide much better bang for you buck.

Why so many USB-A ports and only one USB-C?

I was interested until I saw the price. Gonna pass on that.

More information here: https://youtu.be/66QzlDewigE?is=WC9vt6LBtdWFPqfp

Yeah, I don't see this succeeding at these prices. Succeeding in a sense to come close to Switch 2 / PS5 (Pro) levels.

I have a Series X with a very similar spec just sitting there collecting dust. I hope one day it will run linux like the PS5 and run Steam lol.

Steam Deck is probably better value

"Internal power supply, AC power 110-240V"

I wonder if they mean that? Japan is 100V.

I know they will sell, but at this price point I don't understand who is supposed to be the target for this.

Either you want a gaming computer, and you'll get a much better one that can be upgraded in the future for the same price, or you want a console, and you'll never pay a grand for it.

4 years old hardware and poor connectivity.

$1049 .. Damn.

Here's hoping my $135 BC-250 arriving tomorrow works without any issue.

Either way, congrats to Valve!

Starts at $1049

thanks to sam altman and jensen huangs bubble this will cost 2500$ next year at this time

Oof, that price point is rough. I hope this does well for them, but I'm not sure who this is for.

congrats to Valve on the launch!

Wow that LTTlabs article was damning. The language is optimistic but this thing can’t possibly move steamdeck-numbers of units at $1100+ with that performance. DOA if you ask me.

RIP

My phone has 1tb storage since 2022...

Man...I'm certainly glad a happened to build a gaming beast rig in January of 2025. The RAM alone (64GB DDR5) would cost nearly as much as the entire rig now.

Thanks to Valve, I've now been using Omarchy as my operating system for months now. Gaming just works on Linux now. It's crazy, used to be a pipe dream!

I'm buying the Steam Machine as well to game on the couch. Give me 4k 60fps and that's all I need. The Steam Controller is also fantastic shape on my hands, very comfortable.

A question for both developers & gamers – why are we continuing to push hardware capacity upward to untenable costs? 2013 games are awesome, I still play them. Why not continue targeting that capability and sell $250 consoles instead of $1250 consoles?

Valve could have made a $2-$3K rig that outperforms other consoles for 4K gaming but I'm glad they didn't. It's genuinely unfortunate the components market went crazy at the same time.

I hope this and the steam deck-likes continue to be successful and incentivize developers to optimize their games for last-gen and portable hardware. I think the "steam deck compatible" certification has already been fairly good for that.

Related:

Steam Machine

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48632884

Associated announcement post: https://store.steampowered.com/news/group/45479024/view/6852...

i'm in, i think prices are gonna suck anyway, i own a playstation and that shit sucks, i want to do more couch co-op with my partner and the steam library opens up so much indie games

can i build a mini pc myself? probably but meh

It's interesting how so many are complaining about price and how it's dead etc.

Yet it will still be out of stock for a long time.

I hope they will release a version with a replaceable CPU and GPU. For a company that does so well on repair ability I don’t understand why they solder everything on the board. I prefer a mini-ITX system where I can easily change the components.

For comparison - cloud gaming such as Nvidia's Geforce NOW is at ~20$/mo for 4k resolution with a monthly subscription one can cancel anytime.

That's what, ~4-5 years of gaming on a superior GPU without the headaches of hardware failures or upfront cost of 1000$?

Yikes Valve. The only folks buying gaming PCs these days are people eeking out an advantage in competitive 3D shooters or folks unaware of how far cloud gaming has come.

Mildly disappointed to see 1GbE when spending [at least] a thousand dollars.

Summary - Get a PS5 Pro.

I'm tempted to go order yet another BC-250, even though I haven't gotten the first one going. Sure the Machine is considerably more modern, has great new features, probably vastly better power efficiency (even though it's only 6nm vs 7nm surprisingly). But 288GB/s memory bandwidth? Versus the BC-250's 448GB/s? https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/steam-machine-gpu.c437... https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/playstation-5-gpu.c348...

Honestly tempted to buy a couple for relatives, who do some phone gaming and one who owns a 3DS they use, and see if they find anything interesting in PC gaming. Also make it a decent media center of course too.

Can we use it for AI?

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