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AI Risks "Hypernormal" Science

Posted by mailyk |2 hours ago |11 comments

cogman10 22 minutes ago[1 more]

The article presumes that the models we have today describing everything could still be subject to a major paradigm shift.

Maybe they could be, but it seems pretty unlikely. The edges of a lot of scientific understanding are now past practical applicability. The edges are essentially models of things impossible to test. In fact, relativity was only recently fully backed up with experimental data.

boulos 36 minutes ago

Please don't editorialize titles unless they're clearly clickbait.

"Designing AI for Disruptive Science" is a bit market-ey, but "AI Risks 'Hypernormal' Science" is just a trimmed section heading "Current AI Training Risks Hypernormal Science".

vivid242 an hour ago[1 more]

I wasn’t aware of the map empire, thank you!

Taking away some complexity comes at a price, and for some people, it’s hard to see that it outweighs the practicality.

bananaflag 23 minutes ago[2 more]

I find it funny how people are so concerned that AI cannot innovate, that AI coding agents only give the most bland solutions to any problem etc. when the next step in OpenAI's 5 stages to AGI is literally called "Innovators".

tech_ken 10 minutes ago

My hot take is that mathematical and scientific 'soundness' is ultimately more of an aesthetic preference than an objective quality of reality. Good science makes sense to humans, and 'what makes sense' is ultimately what fits satisfyingly in your brain. There's nothing inherently wrong with an enormous epicycle model of reality from the perspective of the God of Math; so long as your formal system is consistent and expressive enough to represent everything then meh, it's a model. But the model that humans want to elevate to canonical status has far stricter requirements, and ultimately it's the one which the majority of sufficiently credentialed tastemakers decide is 'best'. Parsimony works well in physics where you have closed form expressions for all your stuff, but the biology cases are so much messier because it turns out that sometimes reality isn't parsimonious. All this to say that good science is a matter of taste, and while AI can gist the broad strokes of taste I've yet to see it take on the role of genuine tastemaker.

edwardsrobbie 21 minutes ago

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