There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

Even the crotchetiest and most out-of-touch people I know basically accept that the Earth is warming now. They just either disagree on the cause or proportion.

Some people just naturally resist hyperbole or sensationalist rhetoric, and I find it very helpful to reframe the argument from doom and gloom and fire and brimstone to something more realistic and grounded:

"The longer we put off doing something, the harder and more expensive it will be in the future. In a Pascal's Wager sort of way, many of the changes we are talking about don't even really cost us anything, and the potential that C02 is not a real culprit is more than made up by danger that it is. Making changes now is the prudent and financially sound decision."

In a large part, this is what the brief ESG trend on the stock market was briefly about before it got co-opted by a dozen different competing messages.

I just follow BlackRock if they stopped to fund green tech, it means the global warming is fixed /s

Reposting a previous comment...

What is generally not understood is that our current icehouse phase is rare.

'A "greenhouse Earth" is a period during which no continental glaciers exist anywhere on the planet... Earth has been in a greenhouse state for about 85% of its history.

'Earth is now in an icehouse state, and ice sheets are present in both poles simultaneously... Earth's current icehouse state is known as the Quaternary Ice Age and began approximately 2.58 million years ago.'

Modern humans have existed for 60k years, all of which have been in this current icehouse.

To cast a different shade on the meaning, this climate period is rare, easily disturbed, and difficult to restore even with vastly more powerful technology. The more common greenhouse state is unlikely to lead to a Venus runaway, but it will be hostile to us.

We might very well require the rare climate, and perish in the common.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_and_icehouse_Earthh...

One of the challenges in doing something about climate change is the significant (and not entirely unfounded) distrust growing between the public and the government.

Basically amounting to, "well, you say you're doing X to combat climate change, but is X actually a competent solution (I don't trust your competence), and are you doing it to actually help or just to line pockets (I don't trust your intent)".

The other challenge is that we as individual humans are loathe to give up our comfortable lifestyle if such turns out to be necessary.

>There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming at an unprecedented rate. Human activity is the principal cause.

This document was last updated in October 2024, but I am a little surprised to see this still available on a .gov site.

The problem isn't technical in nature. We need a brand-new socioeconomic system that outcompete liberal democracies while reducing CO2 emissions.. We are in deep trouble.

We've already lost the battle to prevent catastrophic change:

https://davidsuzuki.org/story/is-it-too-late-to-escape-clima...

And 7 of 9 boundaries have been crossed?

https://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/planetary-bound...

This is starting to look more like the movie _Don't Look Up_.

Oops, someone forgot to delete or redact it.

Maybe they shouldn’t have the “Do scientists agree on climate change?” link go to 404. ;)

Everyone who can hear this has already heard it. Those who continue to pretend it is not happening are either deliberately deceptive so they can continue to make money from fossil fuels or unable to change their minds when faced by evidence due to identity politics.

Very exciting to live in an apocalyptical era. I'm looking forward to discover which one of the several global threats to humanity will put us down first.

I think many people are unwilling to accept "climate change" or "global warming" because of the following:

a) china is unwilling to do anything, and if that's the case, America shouldn't empty its pocket books on this issue.

b) this climate change alarmist stuff has caused a climate disaster in the US because all the migration to Electric Only is causing us to use generators all over the place, which is crazy. We should instead focus on making clean nuclear and expanding solar. PG&E (in CA) has decided to cancel this migration because CPUC (or whatever their called) is in Newsome's pocket who is in PG&Es pocket.

c) climate change extremists are unwilling to both hear yes it's happening and no we're not going to do anything about it, so the people responding are simply saying, no it's not happening.

I wonder if we should move beyond this messaging. It’s well known to the smart half of the population that climate change is happening. There is apparently some debate on the cause. But this point is mostly irrelevant, it is problem-oriented thinking. By keeping the conversation in the problem-realm you invite troglodytes into the conversation to insert their bullshit. Instead, if we move forward with “presumption of truth” solutions-based messaging, we can start to talk about what we’re going to do.

Climate control is something more people will be on board with compared to trying to have a conversation about climate science to a person who didn’t graduate high school.

I’ve given up. I’ve long assumed for a year now we are heading for warming that is even worse than the worst projections and it’s all over. This has given me some peace, like accepting you’re going to die.

Oh wow, a true statement on a government website. I'm sure they'll take it down within a day.

I've shifted my mindset to abandon this idea that humanity will survive forever, or that we should strive to live as long as we can.

Intelligence is a scarcity and it cannot overcome the majority of people that are incredibly stupid or ignorant. So accepting that we are doomed relieves some of the stress. I won't have children to worry about their future, either.

I still live my life in such a way that minimizes my impact on the world as much as possible. I still surround myself with folks that want a better world. But there is no stopping the impending doom and I'm trying not to be miserable with the time I have.

Why did the Trump regime not discover and eradicate this heretical sentence?

So what are we going to do about China?

Can’t wait for trump and his gestapo to deport the entirety of nasa for telling the truth

we don't need evidence Earth is warming, because it's happened before humanity, and it will happen after we're gone. We need evidence that we're poisoning ourselves and the planet. Global warming's only accomplishment is giving the poisoners a pass when it was debunked. Private jets and climate change, choose one.